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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2014 4:12 am 
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Hello,
I have a Problem with my nsa-210. I got this a few days ago as a gift. i used the original cd with the zyxel starter Utility to bring it first to life.
I played a bit with it and then there was a Firmware update it goes to 90% and then it stops the only Thing ihad could do is taking the unit off.
From this Point the nsa is not anymore responing and the sys light is flashing green und it becomes never solid. the unit isnt anymore reachable not the web frontend not the share
and also not by the discory of the nsa starter Utility.i took the hdd out formatted it but the hdd is not the Problem. it is solid green when i put it back inside the nas.
I think the nas gets an apipa adress i tried the ffp usb stick for Telnet acess but i had no luck with it maybee i had making anything wrong the only usb sticks i have the smallest is 8GB i tried
partitioning with fat tried ext2/3 pationing used the usb port at the front and back i dont know whether it makes any diffrence i pulled the battery out and had wait a Little to clear cmos
i dont know what i can further try, please help me. maybee i just make a mistake and it can be recovered by your help.

For this thanks in front


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:22 am 
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Can me help someone it would be nice when i gets the box back to life


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2014 5:13 pm 
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How can I forcing a firmware flash.

I read a lot about FFP Stick and saw this http://zyxel.nas-central.org/wiki/Flashing_firmware link

but it doesnt work as described nothing happens

maybee i made something wrong.

I dont know which fw i have to use
which one was first on it

dont know which usb slot to use
I recognized only when i have a fat and another ext3 pen sticked in both rear and front than the led of the usb comes up lits solid

I dont know wich pakets i have to use
i can read but nothing happens anytime

when i make a reset the two beeps I hear but after when iI hold pressing it I never hear three short beeps

when the power supply is at the unit and I wanna shutdown the nas i have to press the on / off button long time hear also 2 beeps and when I release it shuts off
I dont know whether it is normal behavior or not

ive formatted the hdd in ntfs and in ext3.
Dont know which filesystem it has to have to recover anyhow.

but the thing is that the nessary lights are lit or flash and in green so I think it isnt yet totally dead.
But give me PLEASE an answer on all my question who knows more about

when the fw is damaged is there any possibility to bring this up again

in the zyxel starter utility the hostname the ip and a third thing stands on N/A dont know what this mean and whether any can told me a method to bring this again regular

now i have found a 2GB micro sd card for a fat partion whithout partioning bigger sized storage
but it hasnt changed anything with my tries.

Ok so much to now

im exited

Best Regards to Sylvester 2014/ 2015


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 12:10 pm 
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With some luck you can use the 'Universal Stick' to get telnet access. If so, you might be able to find out what is going wrong in the boot process.

AFAIK there is no 'force flash' stick for the '210, but theoretically it can be done manually, the flash scripts are located in /zyxel/sbin


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 5:55 pm 
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Thank you for answering. You say with the Universal Stick i could have luck, so I will try this first.

Let there be just luck for me. :D

For a telnet access i have to tell to a host or to an ip. But I think I havent anymore the correct possibilities. But I will give this a try.

First thing I did was to change the download path to the fat partition to unrisk maybee the false flags of some files. To that moment I had the question, whether is is nessecary or not on my windows 7 x64 pc with ntfs drives.

The next thing is by publishing this link to a download area, which files of these I can see in all directories and sub directories are important for me of creating the Universal Stick.

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dont know which usb slot to use
I recognized only when i have a fat and another ext3 pen sticked in both rear and front than the led of the usb comes up lits solid


Has the usb led to lit by this procedure?
Or say this, that the usb is mounted.
But why then. It is only lit when i have one fat and one ext3 pen to the same time pressed in the unit.
It also doesnt matter to change the pens between rear and front port.
And it doesnt come up to lit when just one pen is inside a port to the font or to behind.
Not the pen with the fat partion and not the pen with ext3 partion.
So theres my next question what drives should be plugged in or should NOT be plugged for this procedure.
Next question Universal stick to get telnet access. Should I use Putty for this or using the Windows 7 cmd line for it or should I fast change to Linux. I have to this moment no native Linux installed PC. But i can change this. And another question is when a Linux PC is better for the posibly operation can i also use a Live System by a CD ? and what diffrences for the procedure are there for all.

in the link is described this
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When no explicit returnvalue is given, or when the scripts returns 0, /etc/init.d/rcS is stopped. In most cases this is unwanted, so exit the script with exit 1


What does this mean for my tries I thought in this file it isnt neccesary to change anything.

Can you give me a walk for all this. I really would like to revive the unit.


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 02, 2015 7:57 pm 
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nsafreak wrote:
dont know which usb slot to use
I don't think it matters.
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I recognized only when i have a fat and another ext3 pen sticked in both rear and front than the led of the usb comes up lits solid

Has the usb led to lit by this procedure?
Don't know. The stick should be recognized and mounted (and unmounted again) before the firmware finalizes the boot process. So if the leds are driven by a firmware daemon, I don't think the led should lit. But if it's driven by the kernel, it should.

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So theres my next question what drives should be plugged in or should NOT be plugged for this procedure.
At boot the firmware probes all usb disks for a special series of files. If it can find them, a script on that disk is executed. This is *not* dependent on the state of any other disk. If you plugin 2 'universal sticks', both will be executed. (providing the first one doesn't interrupt the boot process.)

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Next question Universal stick to get telnet access. Should I use Putty for this or using the Windows 7 cmd line for it or should I fast change to Linux.
Doesn't matter. If the box runs a telnet daemon, you can use any telnet client you like.

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in the link is described this
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When no explicit returnvalue is given, or when the scripts returns 0, /etc/init.d/rcS is stopped. In most cases this is unwanted, so exit the script with exit 1


What does this mean for my tries I thought in this file it isnt neccesary to change anything.
That's right. You only have to rename the file with the right function to usb_key_func.sh.2. That instruction is for when you want to write your own script.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:51 am 
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I hadnt luck with the Universal Stick

Is there another chance to revitalize my NAS-Box i. e. by Serial-Adapter?

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Can you give me information of a maybe lucky nic conversation and on a hopefully tested serial conversation

What serial adapter is to bought for a chance for the NSA-210.

You know maybe a cheap seller in germany or elsewhere or over auctions with a product what is definitly working with a procedure im not a specialist in serial communication I had just see the pins on the board of the unit.
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My PCs have all no serial interface at least outside the cases.
So USB to Serial could be the answer.

But there are so many pieces and I dont know which would be right.


Im exiting on answers please give me a walk


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:26 pm 
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http://zyxel.nas-central.org/wiki/Seria ... NSA-210%29


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 04, 2015 8:50 pm 
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hello,
now i bought the right usb-serial adapter over a well known auction house.
I have now to wait on the post for receiving this part.

I want to flash the whole firmware over serial.
What is nesessary to do this at the NSA-210?

I just saw it is something with u-boot but is there a tutorial for me beginer?

And what firmware i have to choose?

I read about diffrent kernels and that nobody should mix any scripts.

I would like to have the max. updated firmware which is but stable!

Can I do this prompt or after each other?

Please help me, i want to get acess to the unit.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 4:45 am 
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What is to do absolutely


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 8:29 am 
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I don't know if the firmware can easily be reinstalled using u-boot. On the 300 series part of the firmware is written to a jaffs formatted flash partition, which cannot be done from u-boot.
So in your case I'd first have a look at the bootlog on serial, to see why it doesn't boot at all. Maybe it's something simple, which can be repaired.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 9:36 am 
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thanks for answering

when i will get the the bootlog?
will I get it when the usbttl serial adapter is sticked on the board
the power cord is plugged in
and the usb sticks in a port of my computer

or do i have to do anything like set a comand in a terminal


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 10:10 am 
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Today I got the adapter from postage.

It is a TTL-232R-3V3

I openend my nas-box

i can see the 10 pins on the board.

The converted has 6 pins an also not in two lines.

The link you give me tells me that 4 things has to be conected.

But i dont know which colors has ground or vcc.

I dont want to damage more so i will wait on your reply.


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:04 am 
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I opened now the box

and conected

black vcc to pin 1
brown to pin 2
orange to pin 3
empty on pin 4
green ground on pin 5

from left
is this right

what i have to do in my windows pc

should i give this power?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 06, 2015 11:21 am 
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You only need to connect GND, TX and RX. Don't know which colors that are, read your manual.

On Windows you'll have to open a serial terminal. On XP that can be HyperTerminal. For later Windows versions you can use PuTTY.


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