2big NAS fresh installation

deeptheater
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2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Tue Sep 27, 2016 8:43 am

Good morning users,

i am here to ask if anyone has found a way to install lacie os (or any kind of os which can work) on a 2big NAS with fresh disks (and no original disk avaiable).
I've tried for weeks to work it out with the guide (and partitions) made for 2big / 2big2 Network but it seems the os wont boot (red light in front), probably because of different pcb/cpu or everything else.
So basically if any of you has a working lacie 2big NAS, would be very appreciate any kind of support. Would love to unbrick this.
Thank you in advance.

Mijzelf
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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by Mijzelf » Wed Sep 28, 2016 7:54 am

With 2Big NAS you mean the successor of the V2?

For one of the newer Lacie boxes (I think D2 Network 2) it's possible to install the firmware on the disk by using some Lacie 'Nas finder' tool. MAybe that's also the case for your box.

deeptheater
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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Wed Sep 28, 2016 8:33 am

That's the exact name of the product: 2Big NAS. It has, from top to bottom, a ON/OFF switch, a LAN, a USB and an eSata connector in the back. Cannot find anything useful in the Lacie website. The Seagate Network discovery cannot find the device since it's not getting any IP address without a proper OS working in the drives.

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by Mijzelf » Fri Sep 30, 2016 5:53 am

deeptheater wrote:That's the exact name of the product: 2Big NAS.
Yes, that's the new one. AFAIK it's discontinued by now. They were sold in 2 versions, diskless, in which case it can boot from flash, and with disks, in which case the OS was preinstalled on disk. I guess you have the latter one. Unfortunately I don't have partition dumps. And the 2Big2 dumps are not compatible. At least you need another kernel.

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Sat Oct 01, 2016 10:07 am

I managed to recover the partition scheme from one of the original 2TB disks which was in the Lacie. It had been partition wiped but never used or formatted so i think it's exactly as it was before. I used EaseUs Partition Master and a FULL scan method.
After that I created a disk image with EaseUs Todo Backup and recovered it in two 500GB Hdds, hoping for a normal boot.
Unfortunately it didnt work at all so i'm assuming something's bad in the original partition recovery or in the disk recovery to new hdds.
I attach the partition scheme so you can check it out. I'm afraid something's missing in the first sectors, like 1st partition or mbr or somewhat.

Question: should be MBR or GPT? maybe that's the issue (it's GPT as you can see), isnt it?
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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Sat Oct 01, 2016 2:41 pm

Ok, the failed drive (the other 2TB original disk) is still accessible and i'm trying to get the image file of it. It looks like there's actually one more partition compared to the other drive where i recovered them. so lets cross fingers! Maybe it'll be of some use to other users here...

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by Mijzelf » Sat Oct 01, 2016 3:00 pm

When the 2Big NAS has a partition table like the older 2Big's, not all partitions will be recognizable. This is an MBR partition table. The GPT tables from newer boxes are almost the same, only they have some dummy partitions added to fill the gap between partition 2 and 5, and to replace 1 (which is an extended partition.)
These dummy partition will not be recognized, nor the partition 6, which contains a raw kernel. I'm not sure about partition 5, which contains the swap. The swap is embedded in a raid container. Not sure if that is recognizable.

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:31 am

Ok, so let's resume last step i took, with no luck btw.
I took an image of the lacie disk which was broken in some sector i guess, for safety.
Let's assume im not willing to buy a 2TB hdd before i'm sure it's working and i have some spare 500gb.
I tried to clone all partition except (big) data one to a 500gb, trying to boot it. No luck: red light.
I have no way to clone the disk directly with a partition resize, even from the image file, at least with easeus todo backup.
I put the broken 2TB and the working (but empty) 2TB original lacie inside. It's blinked blue for 4 days. i guess it's trying to rebuild/initialize something but after all this time i assume the damage sectors prevent it. At least no red light.
So now i'm doing a perfect clone with an external machine from the damaged 2TB to the working one.
Ill keep you updated.

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Fri Oct 07, 2016 3:22 pm

Here we go.
The clone worked and i finally made it to boot the NAS, with a single HDD (yeah, you can do it with 2big NAS!).
I had to restore it to factory since i have forgot old admin psw. Now it's upgrading the firmware.
If anyone's gonna need the iso i'll make it for ya but im not sure is gonna work.
I'll try someday later to clone it and resize to a smaller HDD.

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by deeptheater » Sat Oct 08, 2016 4:45 pm

Just for info, i made a working image with Todo Backup you can use for moving Seagate Nas OS 4 into lower capacity Hdd. Tried with a 500GB from the 2TB and it boots just fine.

marcoe84
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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by marcoe84 » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:18 am

Hello everyone, I would also need to install two 2TB fresh disks on 2BIG NAS, could you help me, deeptheater I sent you a pm
thank you very much

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by Redstorm » Tue May 09, 2017 4:48 pm

Hello,
I have a running 2bigNAS, with 2x3TB disks.
I suggest you search for Lacie Netwrk Assistant: it should help you in booting in recovery mode and install freshly downloaded firmware on new disks.
Have fune, in case of need, do not hesitate to contact me

Redstorm

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by panda88 » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:15 pm

Hi there!
I truly truly needs your help...
I inherited a 2BIG NAS 3tb model. One of 2 disks got burned (really, smokie!)
I know it was working before that smoke event but i didnt want to restore a drive that was used from the older user so... i formatted those disks apart and I put them back inside it, pretty sure that the OS was on the internal flash. what an enormous problem. its not working at all.
I tried to fix it by windows lacie network assistant using recovery mode and some capsules files but no progress.
I also tried what's written here http://lacie.nas-central.org/wiki/Insta ... s_(2Big_2) with tons of disk, many attempts, mbr and gpt tables before figuring out that it's a different product.
Now, what can i do?
I have virgin disks and the nas and a sata to usb cable...

Please, please, help me! thanks

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by fvdw » Mon Dec 04, 2017 9:57 pm

What is the exact model you have ?

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Re: 2big NAS fresh installation

Post by panda88 » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:07 pm

i do have a 2big NAS, the one born with 2 x 3 TB disks inside and without any kind of OS inside a flash memory...
do you want my serial? which other informations do you need?

please help me :(

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